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Plagiarising Science Fraud
Newly Discovered Facts, Published in Peer Reviewed Science Journals, Mean Charles Darwin is a 100 Per Cent Proven Lying, Plagiarising Science Fraudster by Glory Theft of Patrick Matthew's Prior-Published Conception of the Hypothesis of Macro Evolution by Natural Selection
I think that allowing any kind of fallacy and myth to be accepted as veracious might just create an enabling environment in which credulous belief in far more serious myths and fallacies might flourish and lead, ultimately, to significant social harms, with murderous hate crimes and genocide being at the far end of a "states of denial spectrum" .
The dreadful story of August Landmesser - the man who refused
to salute Hitler - is an example of the blindsight paradox
As founding Director for the Nottingham Centre for the Study and Reduction of Bias, Prejudice and Hate Crime, at Nottingham Trent University, I see this as a particularly important topic worthy of further scholarly research. In the Public Interest In the public interest, I have been compelled to write a professionally reviewed essay in response to online obscene and misogynistic abuse, other abuse, and claims, which have been submitted to the Scottish press, about my expert and independently peer-reviewed scholarly science journal publication of my original research findings. You can read it here (Sutton 2016).
To avoid mockery and humiliation in a fact fight fuelled scholarly debate, one needs to bring something more than mere unevidenced opinions.
The main aim of this blog post is to encourage readers to not let pseudo scholars punterize the public with their unevidenced mere agenda-driven fact denial opinions. I wish to encourage others to do what I do, which is to insist that fact deniers and concealers provide independently verifiable facts of their own if they wish to challenge the significance, or very existence, of independently verifiable and 100 per cent proven facts, which they find uncomfortable.
In his excellent book "State of Denial" the late Stan Cohen (2001, p. 138) wrote:
'Collective memory is pressed into shape by being repressed. 'Uncomfortable knowledge, though, can be forgotten without direct state manipulation. Whole societies have an astonishing ability to deny the past - not really forgetting, but maintaining a public culture that seems to have forgotten.The blind eye is the backward eye. When circumstances change - renewed pressure from victims, the chance opening of an archive - then newspaper editorials (without irony) remind us that 'this is what we always knew'.
The "New Data" fact that seven naturalists - as opposed to the old Darwinist story of "none" - read patrick Matthew's book, containing what leading darwin scholars admit is the full prior published hypothesis of natural selection, before Darwin and Wallace (1858), Darwin (1859) replicated the hypothesis without citing Matthew, was first published in my book Nullius in Verba: Darwin's greatest secret (Sutton 2014). Moreover, I originally discovered that Darwin knew four of the seven naturalists who cited Matthew's book pre-1858 and that three of them played major roles at the epicentre of influence and facilitation of the work of Darwin and Wallace and that of their influencer's influencers (see Sutton 2016).
Please note, contrary to the sly and misleading fallacies written about me by Darwin scholars, I have, in fact, never once claimed it is 100 per cent proven that Darwin and Wallace read Matthew's book, as several of the above scholars have claimed or implied. Instead, I have very plainly and deliberately written that, when all the evidence is weighed together, that I personally believe, subjectively, that it is more likely than not proven beyond
all reasonable doubt that they did. And I have very pointedly and clearly insisted that others must read and weigh all the "New Data" facts together to reach their own subjective opinion on the matter (see Sutton 2014). What is 100 per cent proven is that Darwin's friends and influencers, and his and Wallace's influencers and their infuencer's influencers read Matthew's (1831) book (because they cited it and the ideas in it), that Darwin read five books that cited Matthew's (1831) book, knowledge contamination routes from Matthew to Darwin and Wallace are now discovered, Darwin lied about the prior readership of Matthew's book, and he told several more lies besides in order to steal Matthew's glory by way of plagiarising science fraud after 1860, and that Wallace lied in his autobiography by deleting incriminating text in his transcription of a letter he sent his Mother. See Sutton 2014 (and 2016) or all these 100 per cent proven facts and their contextual details.
Darwinists have no dis-confirming facts to bring to a fact fight to argue against the newly discovered 100 per cent proof of potential Matthewian knowledge contamination routes of the pre-1858 brains of Darwin and Wallace
For their part, Darwin apologists have no 100 per cent verifiable proof that Darwin or Wallace conceived the
Sutton (2014)
The Bombshell Book that
Re-Wrote the History of
Discovery of Natural Selection
theory of macro evolution by natural selection independently of Matthew's (1831) orignal conception. The best evidence they have is Darwin's private notebooks and essays. But these do not help them a jot, because several of Darwin's and Wallace's associates, and their associate's friends and associates, and their influencers, and their influencer's influencers, had read and cited Matthew's (1831) book, and mentioned the orignal ideas in it, before Darwin even began his first relevant private notebook of 1837-38 (Loudon and Chambers) and in the same year he penned his first private essay of 1842 (Selby). See Sutton 2014 and Sutton 2016 for the fully referenced and independently verifiable fact-led details. The unwelcome "New Data" facts prove also that both Loudon and Chambers, and Wallace's (1855) Sarawak paper's editor Selby, and Jameson - the regular correspondent of Wallace's mentor and correspondent William Hooker (William being the father of Darwin's best friend Joseph Hooker) - all cited Matthew's (1831) book before Wallace made his first private jottings on the topic. Finally, Darwin's pre-1858 notebooks in fact prove that Darwin held in his hands five books that actually cited Matthew's 1831 book!
The newly rendered useless evidence of the existence of his notebooks and essays aside, the only remaining evidence Darwin scholars have that Matthew's (1831) book could not possibly have influenced Darwin pre 1858 is a letter that Darwin wrote to his great friend Charles Lyell in 1860.
Following Matthew’s (1860) first priority claiming letter in The Gardeners’
Chronicle, of 7th April, Darwin wrote on 10th April to his friend Lyell that he
had ordered a copy of Matthew’s book. This might be taken as strong confirmatory
evidence that Darwin had never read Matthew’s book or been influenced by
its original contents. Rationally, it is nothing of the sort. Darwin’s letter to Lyell
merely proves, and only then if the proven liar Darwin was then telling the truth,
that he did not have a copy of Matthew’s book in his possession in 1860. Darwin
could easily have prior-borrowed a copy from an associate and made extensive
notes. Or been supplied by others with such extensive notes. He could
just have easily borrowed a copy many years earlier from the London Library,
which was founded in 1841, the same year Darwin joined, and the year before
he penned his private 1842 essay on natural selection. Or Darwin might have
borrowed a copy of Matthew’s book years earlier from Mudie’s Library — founded
in 1842 — because he was a noted keen member of both lending libraries
See Sutton 2014for all of the references to these independently verifiable facts and much more besides that Darwin scholars apparently do not want you to read.
What Possible Motives Might Darwin Scholars have for Propagandising to Deny or Hide Uncomfortable New Facts?
I strongly suspect that professional jealousy and fear of ridicule for their own poor scholarship in failing to find what I originally discovered, in equal proportions, drives the shamefully pseudo scholarly propagandising behaviour and cannily indifferent silence of Darwin scholars who are aware of the "New Data" facts.
Dr John van Wyhe attempted to mislead the Scottish people by claiming my
peer reviewed science paper (Sutton 2016) is a conspiracy theory
I challenge any leading Darwin scholar to debate the "New Data" facts with me before an academic audience, the wider public and the press.
Dr Mike Weale, who has written (Weale 2015) - with zero evidence to support his mere opinion that the evidence Darwin read Matthew's ideas is weak - adamantly refuses to face me in an academic debate before his peers to defend his completely unevidenced accusations that I have created a supermyth of my own about Darwin and Matthew. Weale writes, by way of excuse, that he fears, despite knowing the fact I have presented and debated the "New Data" facts before skeptical audiences in universities and elsewhere, that I will mock him in public (Weale 2016) for his unevidenced opinions. The fact of the matter is that Weale's Darwin worship propagandizing opinions are completely disconfirmed by the new hard facts he refuses to engage with in any kind of rational honest open and public debate.
The "New Data" facts are chasing dishonest propagandising Darwinists
For the sake of veracity in the history of scientific discovery, I will continue to present my research findings and debate them in public before academic audiences and beyond. I am more than willing to debate the facts with any leading fact denying and propagandising Darwin scholar, historian of science, or biologist who cares to do so before video cameras,
Darwin scholars should consider me and my publications and presentations on the "New Data facts a standing open challenge to all the dishonest scientists and historians lining their pockets by misleading the public in order to promote the pseudo-scholarly publications and profiteering paraphernalia of the Darwin deification industry.
There is a 156 year old tradition of shameful pseudo-scholarly propagandising fact denial dishonesty and blatant lying in the Darwin industry, beginning with the it's namesake's own 100 per cent proven plagiarising science-fraud by glory theft (see peer reviewed journal article proof: Sutton 2014andSutton 2016) sly self-serving lying about the prior readership of the original ideas in Matthew's (1831) book.
Peter Bowler (1983, p. 158) Evolution: the history of an idea, (1st and all revised editions). Berkeley, CA: University of California Press. p158 :
"One writer has even gone so far as to hail Matthew as the originator of the modern evolution theory (Dempster 1996). Such efforts to denigrate Darwin misunderstand the whole point of the history of science ...Darwin's notebooks confirm that he drew no inspiration from Matthew or any of the other alleged precursors."
This is one among many instances of Darwin worship propaganda. The independently verifiable facts - as opposed to Bowler's incorrect and misleading assertions - confirm nothing at all of the kind. The facts prove the case otherwise. For example, Darwin's notebooks prove that before 1858 Darwin held in his hands five books that cited Matthew's (1831) book containing the full prior published theory of macroevolution by natural selection.
(Sutton 2016) to see exactly how misleading Peter Bowler is being when it comes down to the actual evidence of what we can really, definitively, with any degree of confidence say about Darwin's private essays and notebooks (footnote references excluded here) :
'As an argument that reliable evidence exists to disconfirm evidence that Matthew influenced Darwin, Bowler argues: “Darwin’s notebooks confirm that he drew no inspiration from Matthew or any of the other alleged precursors”. Bowler’s seemingly compellingly plausible argument is worthy of further examination in light of the independently verifiable facts. And, in light of the New Data about who we newly know did read the ideas in Matthew’s book, and most importantly when they read them, these actual facts confirm that Bowler’s argument is rendered redundant. To begin with, there is little on natural selection, beyond a mere hint at it, in Darwin’s (1837) private “Zoonomia” notebook. 98 Not until his private essays (1842, 1844), do we see Darwin’s acknowledgement of evidence for the general process of natural selection. By 1842, Loudon had cited Matthew’s book many times following his 1832 review. And 1842 was the same year in which Selby cited Matthew. But it was not until Darwin’s jointly presented paper with Wallace that the full hypothesis, which Matthew had prior-published, was written down by Darwin. Following Matthew’s (1860) first priority claiming letter in The Gardeners’ Chronicle, of 7th April, Darwin wrote on 10th April to his friend Lyell that he had ordered a copy of Matthew’s book. This might be taken as strong confirmatory evidence that Darwin had never read Matthew’s book or been influenced by its original contents. Rationally, it is nothing of the sort. Darwin’s letter to Lyell merely proves, and only then if the proven liar Darwin was then telling the truth, that he did not have a copy of Matthew’s book in his possession in 1860. Darwin could easily have prior-borrowed a copy from an associate and made extensive notes. Or been supplied by others with such extensive notes. He could just have easily borrowed a copy many years earlier from the London Library, which was founded in 1841, the same year Darwin joined, and the year before he penned his private 1842 essay on natural selection. Or Darwin might have borrowed a copy of Matthew’s book years earlier from Mudie’s Library — founded in 1842 — because he was a noted keen member of both lending libraries. There is no mention of Matthew’s (1831) book in any of Darwin’s (1838) handwritten Books to Read and Books Read private notebooks until Matthew’s (1860) claim to priority letter was published in The Gardeners’ Chronicle. However, the old adage that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, is particularly pertinent in this particular case in light of the new hard evidence unearthed from the publication record of Darwin’s bad faith regarding his account of the readership of Matthew’s book. Rationally, therefore, we should, as objective scholars, no longer simply assume that Darwin did everything in good faith. The fact of the matter is, and it is facts we must now focus on, that there is no proof, other than the dates he wrote on them in the privacy of his own home, that those dates on Darwin’s notebooks and private essays were honestly written and are therefore accurate. Furthermore, it is a fact that Darwin’s notebooks are devoid of many pages — due to them having been torn out — and that much of the remaining text in them has been scribbled out so as to deliberately render it completely illegible.
So what do the facts enable us to know for sure about the latest possible date when Darwin’s private notebooks and essays were written?' See bullet-point timeline in Sutton (2016) for the detailed answers.
Since the publication of my book Nullius (Sutton 2014), I have noticed that critics of the "New Data" facts in it - that the original ideas on natural selection Matthew's book in fact were read by seven other naturalists pre-1858, because they actually cited his 1831 book, and that four were well known to Darwin, two to Wallace, that Darwin lied about the fact of Matthew's prior-readership. after he was told otherwise - have no facts to counter the veracity of these 100 percent independently verifiable facts. Consequently, to corruptly prop-up their biased and profitable newly debunked beliefs that Darwin and Wallace independently discovered natural selection, they are, unscientifically, pumping out mere rhetorical propaganda - including lying and smears - in an attempt to hide the truth and mislead the public.
Always ask any"fact deniers" what independently verifiable facts they actually have - if any - to disprove the existence of the uncomfortable facts that challenge their particular professional agenda.
Get a flavour of what is in "Nullius in Verba: Darwin's greatest secret" - the book that the Darwin deification industry - does not want you to read - by reading my free open-access peer reviewed science journal article on the topic of Darwin's proven lies and glory stealing science fraud. Here (Sutton 2016)
A perfect "factstorm" has hit the Darwin Industry. And they know it. What we are seeing is their irrational denial of the inevitable. They are engaging in magical thinking - as though saying uncomfortable new facts are not facts (or are a conspiracy theory in themselves) will, like a delusional magic spell, transmute them into thin air. Darwin scholars can run, but they cannot hide. The 'New Data' facts (Sutton 2016) are chasing them like Pac-Man.
Like a Veracity Fuelled Pac-Man, the "New Data" facts are Chasing Fact-Denying Propagandist Darwin Scholars. And their Bite is Lethal for the Mighty Darwin Deification Industry.
What is Sputnik?
"Sputnik is an international multimedia service launched on 10 November 2014 by Rossiya Segodnya, an agency wholly owned and operated by the Russian government, which was created by a Decree of the President of Russia on December 9, 2013."
Of course, Sputnik might well on many occasions provide a dreadfully biased anti-West view, but - most worryingly for Darwin Scholars - it's coverage of the facts of the Matthew and Darwin story are one step further towards confirming theFrozen Donkey Hypothesis.
I am relieved to learn that my prior observations (see also Sutton 2016) that Wikipedia’s paid personal agenda editors are operating throughout the entire Wikipedia encyclopaedia to subvert the truth and bury annoying and uncomfortable dis-confirming facts for the “majority view” has been firmly confirmed by the research of other academics.Click herefor an overview of my personal experiences withWikipedia editors engaging in systematic fact deletion.
Wikipedia needs investigation by the FBI, because its owners claim it is an objective encyclopaedia edited by the general public. On those grounds it seeks sponsorship via the public for donations to keep it going. In reality it is secretly earning money on a “fact deleting paid-to-lobby” basis.
This corporate activity stinks to high heaven of corruption, fraud and organised crime. Wikipedia editors are gaining a pecuniary advantage by deception. I am prepared to testify!
Regarding his published accusations against me and my research, the only excuse provided by Dr Mike Weale for his continued refusal to engage in an open public scholarly debate, in a university of his choosing, and at any time of his choosing, and with as much assistance and support from his colleagues, associates and contacts as he requires is that he fears I will ridicule his scholarship on the same topic. How very weird - oops!
I have tried to debate with you on this site for well over a year now. But here on your own web site you deny that facts are facts. You deny that what is literally written means what it literally says and you deny that lies are lies. You even deny that analogies are analogies.. And the list of what you refuse to engage with could go on.
Now you do not wish me to call you a pseudo scholar for such behaviour – yet you say I have created a supermyth.
You have written here in your website: that I am….
“….creator and promulgator of an elaborate set of myths and supermyths of your own. You claim to be busting the myth, deliberately set up by Darwin and credulously believed by Darwinists ever since, that no-one read Matthew’s book. But the very existence of the myth you are busting is itself a myth. It’s not just a case of de-bunking the de-bunker of the myth, but de-bunking the very idea that there is a “myth and supermyth” narrative in the first place. It really is Alice-in-Wonderland rabbit-hole territory.”
You said I have created a Supermyth.
Now I have challenged you – to go off the pages of your own website – where we have ALREADY held the debate (if you can call denying facts and refusing to answer questions debating) you wish to have yet again on your website where only you decide what can and cannot be said, where you chose what you do and what you have so many times refused to answer.
I have challenged you now to do something bigger, better and more scholarly/ I have challenged you in no uncertain terms to put up or shut up in a public academic forum that will be filmed and disseminated world wide.
I am calling you out on your assertions of fact. Assertions you have made about me. But you are refusing to engage in a public academic debate on academic territory. Instead, you are asking to continue the same old thing you keep on doing with the facts, to seek to conceal them, here on your own website. I wish to expose that behaviour. I will expose that behaviour.
I say it looks like you are very afraid to face me in public on camera in debate in a place where your refusal to answer questions and refusal to admit facts will be exposed for the World to see. Why would that be Dr Mike Weale?
If, as you have claimed so boldly and confidently, above, I have created an supermyth then what better way for you to silence that supermyth in public than by exposing it and my ability to defend my position?
And I mean in public – where you cannot hide by fact denial – where you will not be allowed to hide by a systematic failure to face the facts in the same way you have done on this website time and time again.
Here is my answer to you for the question you asked in place of actually answering mine: I have absolutely no intention of wasting my time debate facts that you deny are facts on your own website again and again with you and trying to get you to answer questions you refuse to answer here. So I have challenged you to an academic debate off this website.
You have an academic title and position and so do I. We both work for universities. Let us take this debate now onto a university campus – or other esteemed place. I have no fear of doing that – so why do you fear it Mike? What is it you fear Mike? Is it the facts Mike?
To deal with – and to expose – what I will claim by reference to your published and academically fully archived published behaviour on this site I will expose the hard data of what I will claim is your persistent evasion of the facts and what I will, with respect, claim is your denial of the facts and I will do so in order to challenge you to support your serous claims against me that I have created a supermyth, I think that is quite fair and reasonable.
I have openly and honestly – in no uncertain terms – challenged you to debate this serious issue with me.
Yours is a serious and published academic allegation. I have given you the wonderful opportunity to be open and scholarly on this issue. Therefore I have challenged you to go with me before an academic and public audience and to have our debate on this serious allegation you have made filmed and disseminated as far and as wide as possible. And I wish to do this to expose your behaviour on this very website for what it is Mike. You can then defend your position in public and we can let the public and our peers judge who is right and who is behaving correctly.
You are refusing to participate in a public debate off the pages of this website are you not?
Answer the question please Mike. Yes or no.
So please answer my question:
Are you refusing to take this debate regarding your serious academic accusations against me off your own website and into the public forum in the form of a proper academic and scholarly debate – to be filmed, disseminated and judged by our peers and the wider public?
You have repeatedly demonstrated that the way that you deal with people who don’t agree with you is via mud-slinging and ridicule. You have repeatedly labelled anyone who disagrees with you, including myself, as either stupid, mentally deranged or deliberately deceitful – see for example your series of comments addressed to me starting here: https://patrickmatthewproject.wordpress.com/leave-a-reply/comment-page-5/#comment-853.
In the face of such appallingly insulting behaviour, why on earth should I agree to debate with you in public? Your mud-slinging is vicious enough when delivered via webpage comments, goodness knows how much worse it will be in a live confrontation, when your hackles are up.
No, the evidence is clear. A live debate with you would simply expose me to your mud-slinging insults at first hand, and would be the very opposite of illuminating.
I urge you accept my offer to debate with you on the pages of this website, and to adopt a debating style that concentrates just on the facts and the interpretation of the facts, and not on your vituperative opinions of your opponents.
So you are still refusing to answer the question with a yes or a no.
Even though no is your effective answer.
You refuse to answer the question.
Even where I show you that there is no point in debating with you on your own website because you refuse to answer questions. All you can do is to write, what is, with respect, an excuse about imagined mud slinging possibly coming your way. But you refuse to write yes or no as asked.
And by doing exactly that you once again avoid answering the very question you have just been asked.
That is a classical transparent very basic denial tactic. I don’t suppose you have studied denial tactics have you? I have. I intend to make the behaviour of Darwin scholars, in response to the New Data, subject to a research study in that very area.
So, let me just re-cap what you have written:
You are refusing to enter into a public scholarly debate with me in a university, or anywhere else whatsoever other than in the comments section of a website that you totally control. You will not engage in debate with me – not even to defend the serious academic allegations you have made about my research – other than than in the comments section you control on your own website. Therefore, to be absolutely clear, you are refusing to debate your accusations against me before an academic audience where that debate would be filmed for the world to see because you – as you have plainly stated above – fear I will sling mud at you. You are refusing to do so despite my polite public invitation to you to do so because you are in a “mud-slinging” state fear of me. Despite the fact that the invitation is to engage in a scholarly debate in a scholarly setting in a public forum to discuss facts in relation to the serious academic charge you have levelled against me..
You have refused to debate the facts with me anywhere in the world other than in the comments section that you control on your own website where you systematically (as fully evidenced by the data in the comments section here) refuse to answer questions and where you claim that facts are not facts and where you claim that what is literally written does no mean what is literally written and clearly intended to be understood as it is literally written, and so on and so forth..
Now for yet another hard and proven discomfiting fact for your mud-slinging fears about how you think I am likely to behave in a scholarly public setting before an academic and public audience.Namely, that unlike you, my dear Mike, I have debated the “New Data” in several highly sceptical public venues before audiences who have very pointedly and at times very aggressively questioned my research and my findings and my conclusions. I have answered every single question in all such venues very civilly to the compete satisfaction of the chair and audience at every such open presentation and I have never, once not ever “slung mud” as you claim you fear I will now now as your new excuse for failing to face me in a public filmed venue.
I have no reason to sling mud Mike. Because I have facts to sling. Lots of facts, “the New Facts”, uncomfortable facts. The facts that you are refusing to engage with outside of your website comments section which you completely control. Those facts are peer reviewed and in a science journal here: http://www.nauka-a-religia.uz.zgora.pl/index.php/pl/czasopismo/46-fag-2015/921-fag-2015-art-05
Most importantly, let me put your purported fear of mud slinging at rest with reference to relevant facts. I have presented and debated the “New Data” facts of my scholarly findings without any dreadfully fearful “mud slinging” ever. Not anywhere. To date and in total that includes the following public venues:
1. “Internet Dating With Darwin”. Edinburgh International Science Festival. Edinburgh Skeptics Society. April 10th.2014
2. “The Hi-Tech Detection of Charles Darwin’s and Alfred Wallace’s Great Science Fraud”. British Society of Criminology Conference. Liverpool University. July 10th 2014
3. “A DREADFUL DISCOVERY: BIG DATA PROVES WALLACE AND DARWIN COUNTERFEIT DISCOVERERSI”. Conway Hall Sunday Lecture. Ethical Society. London. July 27th 2014.
4. Teesside Skeptics in the Pub 2 October 2014,
5. Sheffield Skeptics in the Pub 25 May 2015.
6. “About Patrick Matthew”: Meeting with the children and teachers of the Junior Carsonians: 17th March 2016
6. “On Charles Darwin and Patrick Matthew: Have we got the wrong scientist on the back of the English £10 note/”. The Rotary Club. Perth. Scotland. 17th March. 2016
7. “The 100 Per Cent Proof of Darwin’s Lying Plagiarising Glory Thieving Science Fraud” James Hutton Institute Lecture 17th March 2016
So what are you really afraid of Dr Mike Weale? Imaginary mud? Is that it? Is that what I am to tell journalists who inquire about you now – that I am to tell public audiences where I am present and clearly not slinging mud that you make serious and unevidenced accusations about my work, but when invited to put up or shut up that you fear to face me in public because you think I will sling mud at you on camera where my behaviour will be filmed for posterity? Really? Mud?
Is it that not an irrational type of academic Mysophobia Mike? The morbid and irrational fear of dirt?
Is that it? Is that, with respect, the best excuse you can come up with?
https://patrickmatthewproject.wordpress.com/leave-a-reply/comment-page-5/#comment-857
In reference to my “clearly biased agenda”: “But given the context you are simply exposing your dreadful bias.”
In reference to my stupidity and/or dishonesty: “Only a stupid person would honestly think – or think otherwise but disonestly claim – otherwise.”
https://patrickmatthewproject.wordpress.com/leave-a-reply/comment-page-5/#comment-866
In reference to my “daft as a brush” notions: “Postmodernists – including the newly evolved – it seems – post-modern Darwinists – seek to do intellectual mischief, which is caused by their daft-as-a-brush postmodern notions that nothing is certain or objective and that all “truth” is simply a subjective social construct … I would argue that’s exactly what you are doing Mike”
https://patrickmatthewproject.wordpress.com/leave-a-reply/comment-page-5/#comment-884
“My definition of institutional stupidity – formed from observing your arguments Mike: “Strict adherence to denying the existence of your own group’s disproven beliefs by making irrational arguments from fear of looking stupid.” The question now remains – “Are ALL Darwinists desperately stupid when cornered by the truth of their stupidity?””
https://patrickmatthewproject.wordpress.com/leave-a-reply/comment-page-5/#comment-1016
“It creates what Wurmser nicely calls ‘Pseudo-stupidity.’ And we have seen plenty of that on this website in various attempts to spin the obvious significance of the new facts into a comfort blanket of denial that they have any significance at all”
“It seems to me – after reading Stanley Cohen’s excellent book “States of Denial: Knowing about atrocities and suffering’ – that such biased scholarship creates an enabling environment for all kinds of dangerous quackery and claptrap, as well as a dysological pseudo-scholarly soup in which hate crime can grow and flourish.”
http://patrickmathew.blogspot.co.uk/2015/09/the-postmodern-darwinist-much-good.html
“Is the Patrick Matthew Project a Darwinist postmodern project? Is it evidence of an anomalous Darwinist flight from science and reason on the question of Patrick Matthew’s right to be considered an immortal great thinker and influencer in science – with full, complete and appreciable priority over Charles Darwin?”
Now the first thing I’d like to say is that all your accusations are false – I’m not stupid, I’m not mentally deranged, and I’m not wilfully deceitful. The second thing I’d like to say is that even if I were stupid or mentally deranged, then calling me this still amounts to disgracefully insulting behaviour – perhaps even more so if it were true. The third thing I’d like to say is that you’re never going to win your arguments by attacking your opponents in this way – you will win them (or not) by the strength of your evidence and your interpretation of that evidence, not by mud-slinging.
There is still time for you to change your behaviour Mike, to apologise for your past aggressive and insulting online behaviour and instead move to a model where you argue the facts and the interpretation of those facts, rather than resort to mud-slinging whenever someone disagrees with you.
I repeat my invitation, and I urge you to accept it, to debate the facts and the interpretation of those facts here within the pages of PMP. If you pose one of your previously unanswered questions, I promise I will answer it now (provided it isn’t “Are ALL Darwinists desperately stupid when cornered by the truth of their stupidity?” or one of your other previous insulting questions of that nature).
Again you seem not to be able to comprehend the plainest meaning of what you read.
As I have explained several times, here on your own website it is not possible to have a rational academic debate with you, because you simply refuse to respond to certain questions and you deny the obvious meaning and context of the most clear and simple text.
Now here is what I think is the real reason you will not debate with me before an audience. It is, with respect, I think, because you deny what every audience I have presented to so far (see above list) admits are Darwin’s lies about the the prior readership of Matthew’s book. You claim that what everyone else can see are lies are not lies. And yet it is you who writes of “Alice in Wonderland fantasies” – presumably that does not breach your own Alice in Wonderland rules on your own website about your own protocols of what is acceptable comment about others? Whatever the case, I am glad that I am allowed to use the term “Alice in Wonderland” and Rabbit Hole” – of course these are in fact the terms I used to explain the thinking of Darwinists on the “plagiarism problem” in my interview with journalist Daniel Engber for his article “Who Will Debunk the Debunkers?” which I shared with you (see earlier comment above).
I wonder what you really fear any sane and rational and honest audience will say to you outside of your rabbit hole website Mike? Those plain and simple lies whch you proclaim are not lies, are here in a blog post about John van Wyhe deceiving the Scottish press: http://patrickmathew.blogspot.co.uk/2016/04/insanely-jealous-dr-john-van-wyhe-madly.html
It is also impossible to hold a rational debate with you on your own website because, for example, after arguing endlessly that there cannot be such a thing as an analogy of differences you then fail to admit that you are wrong when shown the Oxford Dictionary definition of analogy. I asked you to apologize for systematically failing to admit your error on several occasions in the comments section here, but you are apparently “blind sighted” to what I wrote – or else you are, apparently, being – with respect – dishonest, or perhaps there are other explanations that a psychologist can provide? Perhaps those are all mysterious unwritten PMP House Rules forbidden conjectures?Just in case that is the let me use the use the one your own example proves is OK – perhaps it’s all simply your “Alice-in Wonderland” behaviour?
The reason for your “blanking” of such facts might well have a psychiatric or psychological explanation, but let’s leave that to the experts and speculation of the armchair Einsteins of the Internet shall we? I would, with respect, suggest, an Alice in Wonderland academic delusional dishonesty will do: “What more disconfirming facts!” “off with their heads!”. As you can see I am abiding by your “Alice in Wonderland” is an OK criticism example here.
What a relief you used it first. Otherwise you might have taken the head off my reply and deleted it down this rabbit hole!
Now, my dear Mike, with respect etc, you also refuse to accept that disconfirming facts for your belief are facts, because you deny that what sir Gavin de Beer and Ernst Mayr wrote (see above link) was meant to be taken literally, as it was obviously literally written and intend it be interpreted in academic texts so as to convince readers of the veracity of the now debunked “tri independent discovery paradigm of natural selection”.
I expect that despite explaining these facts of your, with respect,”Alice in Wonderland” behaviour to you that you will be “rabbit-hole” blindsighted to them and once again ask me to apologise for criticising such “Red Queen” behaviour and to debate with you ad infinitum on your “rabbit hole” web site.
The trouble is, my dear Mike, that the definition of madness is to endlessly repeat the same behaviour whilst expecting a different result.
I now have the answer, which I must now be compelled, by your answers here, to give any journalists and forthcoming university and other audiences. Thank you.
When I present the facts of Darwin’s lies and the credulous parroting of them by de Beer and Mayr etc I will explain that you think it’s all an Alice in Wonderland Supermyth and John van Wyhe thinks it’s a silly conspiracy theory.
I will in future direct journalists and audiences and my readership to your comments to your own website (I have them all archived should they ever disappear) and you will, unfortunately, be judged accordingly. Me too, of course. I am very happy with my comments and I stand by them all and I am happy to present my research findings to the public via lectures and peer reviewed papers and books etc.
I will explain that despite my best attempt to get you to debate with me in an academic lecture in a university setting of your time and choice – with as many supporters as you require – where your silences and interpretations of literal text and meanings can be questioned by an academic audience, and by members of the press and wider public – that you refuse to accept through your admitted fear you will be ridiculed by me on video camera for the world to see.
I will, of course be referencing your comments and, with respect, excuses in my future written work on this topic – on the denial tactics of Darwin scholars.
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Dr Mike Weale's unremarkable metamorphosis
Want to know why Darwin Scholars deny that peer reviewed proven lies are lies? Why they deny that what is literally written means what it literally says. Why not "Go ask Alice down the rabbit hole?" And good luck trying getting a rational or honest reply.
Alternatively, read the MacDarwin de facto Corporation explanation - Here
Regarding his published accusations against me and my research, the only excuse provided by Dr Mike Weale for his continued refusal to engage in an open public scholarly debate, in a university of his choosing, and at any time of his choosing, and with as much assistance and support from his colleagues, associates and contacts as he requires is that he fears I will ridicule his scholarship on the same topic. How very weird - oops!